Grant Sizemore of the American Bird Conservancy details how house cats can coexist with garden birds, and Matthew Shumar of the Ohio Bird Conservation Initiative describes how to make your yard more bird safe:
The podcast was originally announced on the Thomas Christopher’s site: https://www.thomaschristophergardens.com/podcasts/a-songbird-friendly-garden
Matthew Shumar (OBCI) & Grant Sizemore (ABC) interviewed for Growing Greener podcast